
Jessica Helfand, Ellen McGirt|Audio
October 5, 2021
S9E11: Avery Willis Hoffman
Avery Willis Hoffman is a writer, director, producer and curator. Hoffman recently joined Brown University as the inaugural artistic director of the Brown Arts Institute.
She talked about how the arts can give a divided society a structure for working through difficult topics:
If you’re just at the school board meeting where people are yelling and screaming about this and that and they want to ban this book, that is a heated, intense environment. Now you take that same topic and you put it into an artistic space and people behave differently.
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