12.17.20
Michael Bierut + Jessica Helfand | Audio

Episode 135: Home for the Holidays


Michael rejoins Jessica for the last episode of 2020, to look back at a difficult year that disrupted so many routines, including sitting down every other week to record an episode of this podcast:
It's actually become hard for me just to understand the value of listening to myself talk, hearing my own voice…and the assumption it implies that everything I say is worth listening to.

I've had some really rewarding experiences where I found myself in situations where I've been able to just lurk on the outskirts of things and listen and learn and not feel that I was there to take control of the situation or even make an occasional speech, but just to drink it in.
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Michael Bierut + Jessica Helfand Jessica Helfand, a founding editor of Design Observer, is an award-winning graphic designer and writer. A former contributing editor and columnist for Print, Eye and Communications Arts magazine, she is a member of Alliance Graphique Internationale and a recent laureate of the Art Director’s Hall of Fame. Jessica received both her BA and MFA from Yale University where she has taught since 1994. In 2013, she won the AIGA medal.

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